@whirli Let's hope it doesn't all fall apart the way it did in the post-n900 era, where the entire community fragmented and never managed to deliver a real phone.
Delivering a phone based on a *real* GNU/Linux distribution with upstream free software running on it makes the whole prospect more hopeful by a lot though...!
@whirli Ideally, Nokia should have done with Maemo what Google did later with Android. That is, go to other manufacturers and yell "TAKE IT! Take this platform and make your stuff, as many devices as possible! You don't have to worry about writing your own OS anymore, and you don't owe us a thing. It's ready, it's universal, it's versatile, TAKE IT!"
@whirli The guy who killed Maemo was Stephen Elop, who was a former high-level Microsoft guy. Incidentally, it just so happens that under his regime Nokia also introduced their lineup of Microsoft Windows Mobile phones, which led to Microsoft acquiring Nokia later.
I'm usually not much into conspiracy theories, but when there's tons of evidence of something happening, then yeah, I get suspicious.
@cwebber there's also the fact that Nokia had been flirting with Linux and FOSS for years. Maemo has been around since 2005 on their small tablets. There was a time that Nokia owned Qt. And as Symbian started showing its age a little bit too much, N900 was the first step towards commitment, as it was an actual phone. Then was N9, basically same deal, another step towards real OS oh a phone, now more streamlined and modernized.
But mr. Balmer can't have that, can he.
Microsoft <3 Linux you guys.
@whirli and as for fragmentation... I don't think it really can be worse than what Android did.
Android basically snapped the Linux ecosystem in half: Posix-compliant, Unix-like GNU Linux on the one side and Android Linux on the other side.
I haven't seen a case of fragmentation worse than this, even between Linux distributions. With a little bit of elbow grease, you can take a binary package from RPM and install it in Debian, and chances are it will run without any significant modification. Worst case scenario, you get the source code and build it. And then there's stuff like Appimages, which hybrid between MacOS X bundles and disk images - just take that one file and run it, it's amazing.
But you don't get to port an application from Unix part to Android and vice-versa, you have to pretty much rewrite it, because of how foreign this whole Android thing is. But yeah, it's still Linux. Not that it matters anymore.
@drequivalent linux is the kernal and one can put any OS on top of it a gnu OS or a non gnu proprietary OS like android linux isnt the OS just the back end for any OS one chooses to use it for
@drequivalent Linus loves seeing his kernel used by so many operating systems
@drequivalent i agree it woulda been awesome a linux OS on tons of devices
@drequivalent with all the diff skins and fragmentation like android has ?
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